🎙️ Welcome to Direct Or Detour

A Podcast About the Unexpected Paths to Success

Life rarely follows a straight line. Direct Or Detour uncovers the fascinating journeys behind successful people’s careers and lives.

✅ Did they follow a carefully planned path?
✅ Or did life’s unexpected twists lead them somewhere even better?

Each episode features candid conversations with accomplished guests who share:

  • The victories, the setbacks, and the pivotal moments that shaped their success.
  • Career pivots, serendipitous opportunities, and lessons learned from taking the unexpected route.

Perfect for:
🎯 Career-changers seeking inspiration.
💡 Entrepreneurs navigating uncertainty.
🛣️ Anyone questioning if they’re on the “right” path.
🔍 Those fascinated by others’ life journeys.

📢 Ready to explore the many routes to success? Hit play below and join us on the journey.


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  • Drake Wolfe: From Foster Care to AI Empire—Scaling Automation, Purpose & Legacy

    What if you aged out of foster care with no money, no mentors, and no map—yet still built a thriving AI empire entirely run by autonomous systems? That’s the reality of Drake Wolfe, a self-made entrepreneur, AI architect, and philanthropist who turned one of life’s hardest starting points into a launchpad for innovation, purpose, and…

  • John Hankins: Reinventing Yourself at 71 & Making Peace With Money

    From IBM to Inner Peace: How John Hankins Turned Financial Anxiety into a New Calling What do you do when you’ve built a successful career, climbed the corporate ladder, and still feel like something’s missing? For John Hankins, the answer came at age 71—well after most people settle into retirement. Instead of slowing down, John…

  • Elijah Khan: From Starving Actor to Startup Founder Solving the Accent Problem

    From Rejection to Reinvention: The Journey of Elijah Khan What happens when a classically trained actor hits a wall in an unforgiving industry? For Elijah Khan, it meant taking a detour—and turning it into a rocket ship. From the grind of the ‘starving artist’ life in London’s competitive theater scene to founding a tech startup…

  • Chris Scott on Fixing Execution Debt™, Burnout Recovery & Lessons from the Umpire’s Chair

    From Major League Dreams to Business Clarity — Chris Scott’s Journey is Anything but Linear What happens when your dream job ends with an injury? For Chris Scott, it meant an unexpected pivot from the baseball diamond to the boardroom. Chris is the founder of Boschetto Consulting and the creator of Execution Debt™, a concept…

  • Cam F Awesome: From Bullied Kid to Boxing Champion & Resilience Speaker

    What do you get when you mix a bullied kid, a broken MP3 player, and a six-mile walk to a boxing gym? If you’re Cam F Awesome — the answer is a 12-time national boxing champion, standup comic, and world-class keynote speaker. In this episode of Direct Or Detour, Cam shares the raw, real, and…


📢 🎤 Want to Share Your Journey on Direct Or Detour?

Have you taken an unexpected path to success? Direct Or Detour is always looking for inspiring guests who have navigated career pivots, embraced risks, or found success in unconventional ways.

Entrepreneurs, career-changers, and industry disruptors are all welcome.
If your journey involved unexpected twists that led to success, we’d love to hear your story.

📌 Apply now to be a guest!


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